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Wikiin liittyviä kysymyksiä
MoinMoiniin liittyviä kysymyksiä
Wikin käyttöön liittyviä kysymyksiä
Wikin asennus ja asetukset
Wikin ylläpito
Kehittäjille

Wikiin liittyviä kysymyksiä

Mitä ''Wiki'' tarkoittaa?

Termi Wiki on lyhennetty versio käsitteestä WikiWikiWeb. Wiki koostuu verkkosivuista, joita voi lukea ja muokata internet-selainta käyttäen. Wikisivut ovat vapaasti kaikkien muokattavissa, ellei ylläpitäjä ole toisin määrittänyt. Wiki luo ristiviittauksia sivujen välille linkkejä käyttäen. Lisätietoja löytyy sivulta WikiWikiWeb.

MoinMoin on Python-ohjelmointikieltä käyttävä wikiohjelmisto.

Mitä hyötyä wikistä on?

Hyöty jää sinun itsesi määriteltäväksi. Toisin kuin keskustelupalstat ja postituslistat, WikiWiki antaa mahdollisuuden luoda hieman erilaista sisältöä. Tästä syystä wikit sisältävät vähemmän haittoja ja enemmän tietoa. Tieto on organisoitua ja helppoa löytää.

It is good for whatever you use it for. In contrast to forums and mailing lists WikiWiki allows the creation of content. Because of this Wikis have much less noise and more information. The information is structured and easier to find. You can put up a wiki on your internal web site with many pages, which describe various projects, architectures, ideas, etc. for people to comment on. Some pages just sit there and convey information. Other pages are an open invitation for discussion and commentary. You could also set up a wiki for a very simple skills database.

In general, a wiki is very much a free-form tool, whose value derives from the use to which it is put. For instance, a page in a wiki can serve the same purpose as a discussion thread. You could use a wiki page to collaboratively work on a project.

See MoinMoinSuccessStories for more use cases.

Mitkä ovat wikin tärkeimmät ominaisuudet?

Here are some important wiki features:

editability by anyone - a wiki page is editable by anyone with a web browser
ability to view recent changes
ability to search pages (several ways)
ability to very easily add new pages
ability to see the change history for a document
ability to add new information or modify existing information

Kuinka turvallisia wikit ovat? Eivätkö wikit ole alttiita väärinkäytöksille?

This is an important question. In general, wikis used to have NO security. (That's right!)

For MoinMoin this has changed with the introduction of Access Control Lists, see HelpOnAccessControlLists.

But, assuming you do not use ACLs, the possibility exists for accidental or conscious destruction or corruption of the current page revisions in the wiki.

There are two main ways to devalue a wiki. One is through erasure and the other is through corruption. Dealing with erasure is not terribly difficult, because there is a change log (and back versions) of every page and they can be reverted easily. Thus, when page deletions or major content erasures are detected (which should be fairly quickly), pages can be restored quite easily to their previous good state.

Explicit and intentional corruption is more difficult to deal with. The possibility exists that someone can enter incorrect information onto a page, or edit pages to intentionally change the information so it is incorrect (for example, people can change the attributions on a page to make it look like a different person made a particular comment, or someone can change the content of a paragraph to alter its meaning in a detrimental way). Pretty much any collaborative system has this problem. In practice, wiki corruption is an extremely rare event, and one that can be dealt with (if needed) with the notification feature (to a fixed auditor) for new material submission.

In other words, the philosophy of wiki is one of dealing manually (the term for that is SoftSecurity) with the rare (exception) case of a saboteur, rather than designing in features and overhead (both in implementation and in usage) to avoid the damage caused by a saboteur.

MoinMoiniin liittyviä kysymyksiä

Kun kerta MediaWiki on kuuluisampi ja käyttää PHP:tä, niin miksi käyttää MoinMoinia?

Because MoinMoin is in Python (maybe that is not an obvious reason for everybody, but in the end, it all comes down to this).
MoinMoin supports access control lists
MoinMoin is easy to extend
"MediaWiki is primarily targeted at Wikipedia and Wikimedia's other projects (and other similar large-scale sites with people running their own servers), secondarily at people running local instances to work with data from our sites, and only incidentally at anyone else." Brion Vibber, Media`Wiki developer

Mitä hyötyjä ja haittoja MediaWikissä tai MoinMoinissa on?

See WikiEngineComparison.

Haluan joidenkin sivujen ja alasivujen olevan lukusuojattuja. Onko se mahdollista MoinMoinissa?

Yes, MoinMoin has a good ACL system that enables you to give some user groups control over specific pages. Please look at HelpOnAccessControlLists to find out more.

Wikin käyttöön liittyviä kysymyksiä

Wikissä olevan tiedon etsintä ja saaminen

Kuinka etsin tietoa wikistä?

There are already more ways to search and/or scan the wiki than you can "shake a stick at":

Use the search box or FindPage, where you can search by keyword in title, by full text, with normal words or wildcards (regular expressions).
Click on TitleIndex. This will show you an alphabetized list of all pages by title.
Click on WordIndex. This shows an alphabetized list of every word in every title (i.e. a page named BlueTooth is listed under B / Blue as well as T / Tooth).
Use the LikePages action. This shows pages that have words in their titles that are similar to the current page.
Click on the page title at the very top of the page. This shows what pages link to the current page (which may help you find related pages).

Kuinka näen viimeisimmät muutokset?

Click on the RecentChanges link at the top of any page.

Kuinka näen UusimmatMuutokset-sivulla oletusasetusta vanhemmat muutokset?

Mitä ovat eri värillä merkityt linkit?

Any mixed case name that doesn't have a page will show up as a differently coloured link.

Kuinka pääsen kotisivulleni?

In the default theme, the link to the user home page is at the top of the page, near the UserPreferences link. In the rightsidebar theme, its under the "User" sidebar. You will have to create the page on the first time you visit it, user pages are optional.

Wikin muokkaaminen

Kuinka lisään tai muutan tietoa?

If you see something you'd like to comment on, add to, or change, just click on the EditText link, or click on the icon at the top of the page. The page is brought up in a text-edit pane in your browser, and you simply make the changes. The wiki formatter will generally "do the right thing" with any text you enter. If you want to get fancy, you can do most of the same types of formatting that HTML allows you to do. See the HelpOnFormatting page for some tips and examples.

Pitäisikö minun seurata tiettyjä sääntöjä lisätessäni tietoa?

Not very many. It helps to keep certain types of information formatted in a consistent way. One important convention that will help with consistency is the use of "Template" pages.

The wiki has a feature called "Templates" which show up when you create a new page. If you click on one of these when creating a new page, then that page will have a structure similar to others of the same type. For example, when creating your own Wiki homepage, you should use the HomepageTemplate page, which is available when you create a new page in the wiki.

Kuinka voin lisätä sisältöä, joka ei ole tekstimuodossa?

If the content already exists on a web site, then just add a link to a wiki page. Follow these steps:

Get the URL for the document,
Edit the Wiki page (go to the Wiki page and click the EditText link)
Type in the URL where you want it in the document
Save the changes.

The wiki will automatically make a hypertext link from the text you type in.

You can make the link "prettier" by putting "cover" wording for the link in brackets. The cover wording will appear on the page, but the link will take the user to the URL when clicked on. Here's an example:

  [http://your.domain.example/foo.html This will be the link text]

produces:

This will be the link text

Kuinka saan muutettua tekstin väriä?

In a table this is possible by default. Otherwise the Color2 macro which can be found at MacroMarket must be installed.

How can I avoid the use of < > and use normal newline characters instead?

Use { { { and } } } to bracket your preformatted text into a preformatted paragraph.

Kuinka lisään kuvan sivulle?

You can include a URL to the image in the page. Example:

http://c2.com/sig/inter/wikibase.gif

produces

Kuinka luon uuden pohjasivun?

Templates are pages that show up automatically as options when you create a blank page. Any page that ends in the word Template (see page_template_regex) will automatically show up in the list. Hence, if you want certain types of pages to have a similar format (similar headings, organization, etc.), you just define a page that ends in Template, and when creating pages of this type, select that template and edit it. The wiki fills in the starting content for you. Templates are editable wiki pages like any other.

To create a Template page, just create a new page called <something>Template.

Tiedostojen lisäys intranet-ympäristössä

If you're using MoinMoin on an intranet, it may be useful to make links to documents on file shares available to everyone reading your wiki. For example:

[file://///servername/sharename/full/path/to/file/filename.txt Click here to read filename.txt]

You can also link to files with spaces in the filenames by manually entering the URL encoding for spaces(%20):

[file://///servername/sharename/full/path/to/file/filename%20with%20spaces.txt Click here to read filename with spaces.txt]

More and important info about this is on FileLinks.

Another obvious and maybe better option is to use the AttachFile action.

Pitäisikö minun ''kommentoida'' tekemiäni muutoksia?

If they are significant, or you want people to know that you made them, then yes. Just put @SIG@ after your comment. It is not uncommon to indent your comment under the statement you are commenting on. Also, it helps to italicize your comment to make it stand off from the main body of the page you are commenting on.

However, in some cases it may be appropriate to just make your change anonymously. Correcting spelling, formatting, or trivial word changes are some examples where it is not necessary (and even discouraged) for you to sign your modification.

What if I delete entries in pages, and you think you need them? Is it erased completely?

If you need to, you can revert your changes. See WhyWikiWorks.

Muiden tiedostotyyppien lisäys wikiin

Voinko lisätä HTML-merkintöjä wikiin?

$/!\$ All of this only works if the unsecure HTML extensions (HTML macro and parser) are installed.

If you want to add a single line of HTML, use the HTML macro. This is done by putting your HTML text as a parameter to the HTML macro, like so: <<HTML(This is large font)>>

This would show up on the page as: <<HTML(This is large font)>>

It's also possible to place an HTML document into a page by adding #format html as the first line in the page. If that line is there then the whole page will be interpreted as HTML (thus making links to other pages becomes a bit more difficult!) Make sure that you only add the body portion of the page (not the HTML headers or anything else outside of the body, including the <BODY> tag itself).

Wikissä linkittäminen

How do I link to something outside my wiki, as with an html a tag?

Use an InterWiki link for another wiki (for example FrontPage renders FrontPage)
http://moin.sourceforge.net/ will render as http://moin.sourceforge.net
moin sourceforge page will render as moin sourceforge page

Wikin asennus ja asetukset

See HelpOnAdministration for general help on this topic

How do I activate the "DeletePage" / "RenamePage" option?

For being allowed to delete or rename pages, you will have to log in (through UserPreferences).

Kuinka vaihdan aloitussivua?

Set page_front_page = u'OtherFrontPage' in your wikiconfig.py. See HelpOnLanguages.

HelpOnConfiguration contains more variables you might want to set.

Surge protection

MoinMoin is protected before overuse, if you change pages too frequent, or download attachments to frequent, you may get such a message: "You triggered the wiki's surge protection by doing too many requests in a short time". If you want to change such a behavior, you have to define surge_action_limits in your wikiconfig file and change default values. The default values are:

surge_action_limits = { # allow max. <count> <action> requests per <dt> secs
        # action: (count, dt)
        'all': (30, 30),
        'show': (30, 60),
        'recall': (5, 60),
        'raw': (20, 40),  # some people use this for css
        'AttachFile': (90, 60),
        'diff': (30, 60),
        'fullsearch': (5, 60),
        'edit': (10, 120),
        'rss_rc': (1, 60),
        'default': (30, 60),
    }

Wikin ylläpito

Miten ylläpidän wikiä?

There is a lot of administration information on the SystemInfo page, including the number of pages, and the macros and actions that are installed.

You can set up an !AdminPage, where you put helpful macros , as well as information about the real physical location of the pages, and macros for orphan pages or other things an adminstrator for the wiki might want to look at.

See HelpOnAdministration for more help.

Kuinka poistan käyttäjätunnuksen?

The best way (since version 1.5.2) is as a SuperUser to switch to the user that should be deleted from UserPreferences, select "Disable this account forever" and klick on "Save".

Kuinka palautan aiemman version sivusta?

click on Info (or the little "i" icon) in the top-right corner.
click on revert link of the version you want to restore.

For being allowed to revert pages, you will have to log in (through UserPreferences).

Kuinka päivitän MoinMoinin?

You get more help on HelpOnUpdating

Kehittäjille

Haluan auttaa ohjelmoinnissa, mitä teen?

If you want to help programming you can do that by:

Learn Python if you do not already know it: BeginnersGuide
Learn the basics of MoinMoin on the page MoinDev

Haluan luoda ulkoasuteeman tai auttaa MoinMoinin kääntämisessä, mitä teen?

If you are not a coder but want to help anyway you can help at:

MoinDev/ThemeDevelopment - development of CSS themes and corresponding (X)HTML structure.
MoinDev/Translation - translation of the interface and help pages

MoinMoin Diagnosis

If you think you have found an error or ancounted a problem you can do some tests. Real bugs often show you an error page. You should then save this page go to MoinMoinBugs, search if you find a page that looks similar and then make a new bug page with the traceback attached

You can test your wiki when attaching ?action=test to the standard URL. You then get a page called "MoinMoin Diagnosis" that gives a lot of of information. Most of it will only make sense for developers, but if you are one of those or a Python geek you might find this useful.

If your question is not answered on this page, see MoinMoinQuestions.